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9 Points to Make When Talking to Kids About Porn: Part 2 of 3

7/16/2014

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     I know, talking about sex with kids is hard enough, let alone talking about porn! You may have tried to have “the talk”, and that was awkward, so now you just hope for the best! You’re not alone. Our ever-growing-media-saturated culture is not easy to keep up with. Even sex educators and sex researchers like myself have a hard time keeping up. Luckily, you get more than one shot. Talking about sex and porn isn’t a one-time only deal. Especially if your children are young or haven’t seen much porn yet. So, make sure to read part 1 of this 3-part series and prepare yourself  first. In my years of studying and talking about sexuality and pornography with college students, teachers, social workers, counselors, and academics, I’ve discovered some important talking points to get conversations going. Regardless of how you feel about how right or wrong porn is, it is essential you understand porn and sex are quite different and should be approached differently. ​
      In general, you will want to keep a positive tone, and try to be as conversational as possible. Kids rarely react well to stern lectures about sex. One of your goals is to establish yourself as an approachable parent, and being positive and conversational helps you achieve that. In general, put these talking points into your own words and modify as needed for younger kids. For example, you can say, “pictures of naked people” instead of “porn”. The following are 9 general talking points that can help you start or continue multiple conversations about porn, sex, and our sexual culture:

1.  If you’ve rarely discussed sexuality, apologize. 

Additional talking points:   
  • You are curious and ready to know about sex, and that is normal. I’m sorry I didn’t prepare you for it sooner.
  • It is my job to help you develop skills to navigate sexual and romantic experiences when you are ready to. I will try my best to answer your questions without judgment and connect you to quality information when I don’t know the answers or am too uncomfortable to answer. You can text or email me instead of asking me in person if it makes you more comfortable.
Why: It is okay to acknowledge that you, your greater family, your church, or our culture may contribute to feeling shame about sexual thoughts or feelings. It’s also okay to admit you haven’t been responsive in that area. This establishes that you are willing to admit when you are wrong and are open to learning about our sexual culture yourself.

2. Sex and nudity are some of the most exciting aspects of life and have been celebrated in nearly every culture for thousands of years. 

Additional talking points:   
  • For centuries people have seen nudity and sex in art, this is called Erotica (Greek root words: sex (eros) depicted in art (itica). It's only natural to want to see people naked and see them having sex, especially after puberty.
Why: This takes away some of the guilt for wanting to see naked people in the first place and demystifies sex depicted in art. It’s important to establish openness and not perpetuate porn or erotica as a “dirty little secret”. Depicting sex and nudity is nothing new or uncommon, and kids should know that. 

3. Porn is not about sex or nudity. 

Additional talking points:   
  • Porn is a business. It is the commodification of visual depictions of sex. Or, visual depictions of sex turned into a product. The Greek root words mean photograph (ography) of a prostitute (porne). 
  • The bodies are usually enhanced with waxing, make-up, and cosmetic surgery (even in amateur porn). So, don’t feel weird if your body looks different.
  • The type of sex that occurs in porn is supposed to shock audiences in order to compete against all the other porn sites. That is why so much of porn is aggressive and humiliating. Even if your friends say it’s normal, it is probably because they watch porn. Studies show that when people watch porn more often, they think the porn-type sex acts are more prevalent than they actually are (1). 
  • There are many visual depictions of sexuality that aren’t aggressive and humiliating, but they would mostly fall under the category of erotica and are much harder to find, and usually cost money to view.
  • When you are an adult, I encourage you to be conscious of the sexual material you consume and how it portrays humanity. The more you click on something violent, aggressive, or degrading, the more you drive up its value. I don’t encourage you to support violent, aggressive, or humiliating material in any way. 

Why: It is important to make a distinction between porn and sex. Describing porn as an industry can help kids understand why it’s not necessarily real and shouldn’t be used as a means of sex education. Getting a child to understand the aspects of the industry that they are supporting is an important value to instill, so they understand their internet use as an extension of their own values and not just meaningless entertainment. 

4. Due to the enormous profits to be made, there are many companies out there taking advantage of their performers or encouraging them to engage in extreme sex acts to stay “marketable”(2). 

Additional talking points:   
  • Drugs are often used to facilitate extreme sex acts and drug use is a normative part of the community.
  • Drug use contributes to pressure to stay in the industry because there isn’t a whole lot of other jobs in which you can do drugs during work. 
  • Not every company capitalizes on this problem. But you need to think about the lifestyle you are supporting every time you click. 

Why: It’s important for kids (and adults) to understand the profit that is driving the type of sex they are seeing, especially for kids who haven’t had sex yet. For example, this would be really important point for you to make if your child has seen bukkae (when multiple men ejaculate on the face of 1 woman at the same time) or double penetration (when 2 men put 1 penis in an anus and another in the vagina). 
 
5. Sex is about pleasure! 

Additional talking points:   
  • Humans have sex for pleasure and connection, not just baby-making. Even other animals have sex for pleasure. Sexual behavior feels really good and that’s mostly why people have sex. 
  • Even though people seem like they are experiencing pleasure in porn, they are often acting.  
  • I want you to have pleasurable sex when you’re ready to. 
  • When you have sex with someone, it is important for you to not pretend to like sex acts that you really don’t. It is also important for you to ask your partner if they find certain sex acts pleasurable before engaging in them instead of pressuring someone into the act.
  • Some people feel pressured to replicate sex acts seen in porn (3). Others pressure partners into sex acts they see in porn. Neither is about pleasure or connection. It’s okay to explore, but that occurs through communication and creativity. Not mimicking.
Why: For kids who know how babies are made, but don’t understand sex for pleasure (e.g. oral and anal sex), they can be really confused after seeing it on the internet. Teens may already know this, but younger kids may not. Talking about sexual pleasure also gives you a little more “street cred” and can make you seem more approachable when they have a sex question in the future because you aren’t just the bearer of bad news when it comes to sex. 
 
 6. Masturbation is completely normal. 

 Additional talking point:   
  • I promise to give you the time and space to figure out your own body. For example, we can arrange an agreement about knocking on your door.
Why: Make sure your children know that masturbating or wanting to be sexually aroused is normal and healthy. If you’ve caught them in the act, or found evidence of masturbation, they will likely feel embarrassed now that you “know”. 
 
7. Masturbating to porn is different than masturbating without porn.  

Additional talking points:   
  • Your brain reacts differently when you masturbate to porn, than when you masturbate without porn (4). 
  • There is a growing body of research on how pornography affects the brain or how people who use a lot of pornography have different brains from those who do not (5). So, while your brain is still developing, it is important to masturbate the old fashioned way.
  • Here is a video for you that explains this process:  
Why: As a culture, we often think of porn use as synonymous with masturbation. In fact, I’ve had dozens of college students in shock and awe over the revelation that they could reach orgasm on their own without watching porn. This is a very important life skill to have! It’s also important to be able to masturbate the old fashioned way, as there is some growing evidence that masturbating to porn creates a “high” that is more “neuro-chemically” rewarding than other sexual behaviors, making real sex less enjoyable.

8. When you are an adult, you can decide for yourself how much you would like porn to be a part of your private life.  

Additional talking points:   
  • Some adults choose to use porn together, some choose to use it separately, and some choose not to use it at all. Whatever you choose, you should always check in with yourself, a friend, or partner to try and gauge how porn is affecting how you experience sex with a real person. When in doubt, see what happens when you try to have sex and masturbate without porn for 30 days. 
  • I know if you really want to see porn, you will find a way. But it’s my job to make sure you grow up into a sexually and romantically competent person, and so far the research shows porn won’t help you do that (1, 6, 7, 8, 9). That is why we are going to/have installed monitoring software and have rules about using the computer in a public space. 

Why: This sends the message that porn is for adults. Even if you would like them to never use porn, this sets them up for thinking about how porn would fit into their life when they’re older and letting them know, if they are using porn, it’s on them. Not you. They’ve been informed. 

9. Porn is going to be everywhere, if it isn’t already. 

Additional talking points:   
  • Your friends or other kids you know might be looking at porn online, sharing images, or even posting their own porn, etc. in your presence. You will have to decide for yourself what to do in those situations, but I think it’s best if you not participate or encourage participation. Better yet, you can intervene by telling them “That’s not cool.” Or whatever socially acceptable language you use to confront someone!
  • Unfortunately, it’s rare for parents to talk to kids about porn, so your friends may not understand all
    of the aspects they need to consider about the effects of porn use. However, other families do talk about this, but you might be the only one among your friends who has parents who discuss this with you.
Why: This allows you to take some responsibility and sends the message, I’m here, even though it’s weird. I’m here. 

      In general, as you have these conversations, you want to focus more on asking questions and responding calmly without judgment, rather than going through the list as administering a lecture. Perhaps set aside a couple of months and make it a goal to talk about one of these points each week, or break it up into 3-4 sessions and repeat as needed when something comes up that allows you to have a conversation (TV show, friends, movie, advertisement, current event, etc.). 

      If you know your child has already seen a fair amount of porn ask him/her, “Did you see anything that was confusing to you?”, “Did you see anything that scared you?” Remember to always respond warmly and calmly to encourage more discussions (e.g. “Not many people would be willing to discuss this topic. I’m really proud of how honest you are being right now.”). Talking about porn doesn’t have to be painful or weird, just relax and dive in and then dive in again.

     Stay tuned for part 3, where I will show you steps parents should take to change the tech environment in a household. If you don’t want to miss out: Sign up for my mailing list, follow me on Twitter, or like me on Facebook.

(1) Brown J. D., & L'Engle K. L. (2009). X-rated: Sexual attitudes and behaviors associated with US early adolescents' exposure to sexually explicit media. Communication Research, 36, 129-132.

(2) Reist, M. T., & Bray, A. (Eds.). (2011). Big porn inc: Exposing the harms of the global pornography industry. North Melbourne: Spinifex Press.

(3) Bergner, R., & Bridges, A. (2002). The significance of heavy pornography involvement for romantic partners: Research and clinical implications. Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 28, 193-206.

(4) Hilton, D. L. (2013). Pornography addiction-a supranormal stimulus considered in the context of neuroplasticity. Socioaffective Neuroscience & Psychology, 3, 11-16.

(5) Voon, V., Mole, T. B., Banca, P., Porter, L., Morris, L., Mitchell, S. & Irvine, M. (2014). Neural Correlates of Sexual Cue Reactivity in Individuals with and without Compulsive Sexual Behaviours. PLOS ONE, 9(7), e102419.

(6) Braun-Courville D. K., & Rojas M. (2009). Exposure to sexually explicit Web sites and adolescent sexual attitudes and behaviors. Journal of Adolescent Health, 45, 156-162.

(7) Davis, K. C., Norris, J., George, H. W., Martell, J., & Heiman, J. R. (2006). Rape-myth congruent beliefs in women resulting from exposure to violent pornography: Effects of alcohol and sexual arousal. Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 29, 1208-1223.

(8) Peter, J., & Valkenburg, P.M. (2009). Adolescents' exposure to sexually explicit internet material and sexual satisfaction: A longitudinal study. Human Communication Research, 35, 171-194.

(9) Zurbriggen, E. L., Ramsey, L. R., & Jaworski, B. K. (2011). Self-and partner-objectification in romantic relationships: Associations with media consumption and relationship satisfaction. Sex Roles, 64, 449-462.


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